E-Class 22 – How to recognise Mag Phos symptoms

This week

Lets talk more about some of the different ways to use Magnesium Phosphate. As we saw last week, there is a major theme of cramping, but there is also so much more. This week we go deeper into some other aspects like Pain management, Cholesterol and Medications.

This week we look at

  • How to recognise Mag Phos symptoms,
  • Tips for using Mag Phos

Your references for this week are The Clinical Science of Biochemic Medicine Part 2

  • Signs and Symptoms p51
  • Indications p52

Where is Mag Phos found in the body?

It is found in the brain, spinal cord, heart, intestines, liver, lungs, spleen pancreas, thyroid gland and kidneys, as well as the nerve and muscle cells.

Role of Mag Phos in the body

Here are some of the many roles of Mag Phos

  • Giving Mag phos helps to reduce Cholesterol levels
  • Assists with allergies
  • Helps with thrombosis
  • Controls the excitability of the autonomic nerves
  • Sedates the transfer of nerve impulses to the muscles
  • Extends the transfer time of nerve impulses in the heart muscles
  • Reduces tension in smooth muscles (muscles forming the supporting tissue of blood vessels and hollow internal organs such as the stomach, digestive tract and bladder)
  • Promotes sleep
  • Along with Calcium Fluoride, Mag Phos is involved in the strengthening and building of bone, skin and tooth enamel

Recognising Mag Phos Signs and Symptoms

Nervous Restless patient

We spoke last week about how Mag Phos is great for the Nervous system.

Exhaustion and nervousness can both be signs of an overworked nervous system needing Mag Phos.

Recognising different types of spasm

As we discussed last week, spasm comes in many forms. Once you recognise they are signs and symptoms of Mag Phos, your treatment protocols become very clear.

  • Violent intestinal colic or cramping may be accompanied by burping (consider little babies with colic that need burping to relieve the pain of the cramp – through to adults)
  • Heart spasms
  • Spasms in the urinary flow causing holding or interruption of the flow (urina spastida)
  • Spasms of the intestines or of the sphincters.
  • Period pains (spasmodic dysmenorrhea)
  • Spasmodic coughs like whooping cough, or asthma type coughs.
  • Tics – No they may not be winking at you, they may have a tic where their eye muscles twitch and spasm.
  • Hiccups
  • Writers cramp
  • Sydenhams chorea
  • Squinting
  • Prostatitis – this can cause an interrupted urine flow as the tubes spasm


Magnesium Phosphate can be a great pain reliever. Remember my story  last week about my client with the migraine. 2-5 Mag Phos tablets can reduce pain quite quickly.

  • Sharp darting shooting or spasmodic pains are relieved by Mag Phos.
  • Headaches with darting shooting stabbing pains can also be relieved.
  • Toothache that’s worse from cold or touch can be helped by Mag Phos. Please also ask them to visit their dentist for a check-up. Holistic dentists, like the one I go to may even use Mag phos prior to any dental work to help you relax, and to reduce pain.
  • Facial pain with sensitivity to touch
  • Sciatica and pain in the ischial area of your buttocks.
  • Menstrual pain

Menstrual Pain and Hormonal issues

As we have said before, women’s menstrual symptoms can be a really good guide not only to the remedy that is needed, but how long a mineral has been deficient.

Period Pain and cramps are one of these symptoms. Now, some women are surprised that not everyone suffers from period pain and cramping, because that is all they have ever known associated with their periods. You may also see issues in their history related to hormone imbalances.

Period pains can be helped by Mag Phos. If there is tiredness and exhaustion along with the pains, Kali Phos or Ferrum Phos can also help. Alternate the three remedies throughout the period.

Recently, I was working intensely prior to my period. When it arrived, I became more tired than normal and lethargic. The symptoms reminded me of the tiredness I have had when I lost a lot of blood and was low in iron. I boiled some water and added 5 Ferrum Phos and 5 Mag Phos, and shortly after my energy levels improved significantly. A few hours later I took 5 Kali Phos, and had a short rest. I felt much refreshed.

When there are hormonal imbalances, No. 7 Mag Phos and No. 2 Calc Phos are often indicated, and can help to rebalance not only the thyroid hormones we spoke of last week but other hormones as well.  Your clients may be incredibly relieved the first time they have a pain free period.

If Calc Phos and Mag Phos don’t act as fully as you expect, then it is also important to consider Nat Chlor. Hormones also need the correct fluid balance in the body to carry them to where they are needed. We will talk more about this when we talk about No. 8 Nat Chlor.

A note about Prescribed Medications

Mag Phos can improve the body’s ability to take up medication.

For this reason, we suggest that Mag Phos is taken 2 hours away from other drugs or medications. I always check what medications my clients are taking. I particularly want to know if they are taking any time release medications that gradually release a drug over an extended period of hours or a day.

If they are taking slow release medications, I make sure that I check what time those medications are taken, and make sure I prescribe Mag Phos at least 2 hours away from that medication.  I also explain this to my client. I don’t want their medication to release too quickly and then not be performing later in the day.

300 Enzymes Activated by Mag Phos

Digestive symptoms can accompany a Mag Phos deficiency. Remember that over 300 enzymes are activated by Mag Phos.

Flatulence can be one effect of digestion that is out of balance. Consider including Mag Phos after Lunch, as well as before bed.

Cholesterol and Blood pressure – high or low

Mag phos will help balance the blood pressure.

Likewise for Cholesterol levels that are too high or too low, give Mag phos and it over a few weeks or months the levels generally regulate.  Too high levels become more normal, and too low also become more normal.

The Body workers friend

Massage therapists, manual therapists and Bodyworkers love Mag Phos. These people are constantly seeing clients with signs of Mag Phos deficiency in their clinic.

  • Tight muscles that require rubbing, pressure to release and relax
  • Complaints relieved by warmth – heat bags, warm towels and other applications
  • Rubbing of painful areas improves the complaints.

I find that Mag phos used in conjunction with Bodywork really helps the session to continue working well after the client leaves the clinic.

Last week we spoke about another remedy which works well with Magnesium Phosphate – Calc Fluor. Likewise, in clinic Calc Fluor is the other remedy I use widely for muscular issues with clients. I tend to use it more for overstretched muscles and ligaments. And also for strains and sprains.

Together you have a really great toolkit using a combination of tablets and cream.

As we spoke about previously in Ferrum Phos, your sportspeople will love how great they feel when they include Ferrum Phos and Mag Phos in their water bottle when they play sport.

Notes about Magnesium supplements

A healthy person can absorb large amounts of Magnesium. Any excess is excreted via the intestines and the kidneys.

However – people suffering any kidney problems should see the advice of their medical practitioner before using Magnesium supplements.

Dr Schuesslers Mag Phos however is safe to take in this instance.

Exercise 1 – Treatment time

How did you go last week with designing a treatment plan for your clients? I would love to see what you came up with. Send them through to me at robyn@tissuesaltstraining.com

Another question that comes up is how long do I keep prescribing for my client? The answer to this depends on a number of factors. What are some of the factors that could affect how long your client needs treatment? How will these factors affect your treatment plan and follow up that you designed last week?

Take some time to consider this:

Would the questions below alter your treatment plan?

How old is your client?

If your client is a child, there is a shorter amount of time that their lifestyle has been affecting their health. If you have a client aged 70 for example, and they are just starting to look at their health, there is a lot more time passed and longer time for any deficiencies to be affecting their health. The 70-year-old is likely to take a longer time to correct those deficiencies than a baby.

How long has your client been experiencing symptoms?

Like the question above, the length of time that your client has been experiencing symptoms shows you how long the deficiency has occurred for.

 What is the cause of the deficiency and is that cause still present?

Discovering the cause of the deficiency makes a difference to the length of treatment. If the cause is addressed, treatment is much faster. If the cause is not addressed, then treatment may need to continue until the causal factor is removed.

How long do you maintain the treatment?

The combination of these factors determines the length of treatment.  For example, if this complaint developed over 20 years, then expecting it to be gone in a week is unrealistic. Whereas if they are suffering a cold it is very reasonable to expect it to be cleared up in a matter of days.

Exercise 1

Watch the video for this eclass at for Mag Pho

Example 2: Baby with Colic

A baby whose legs writhe, and cries with the pains of colic from a newborn to 6 months before they see you, may have been affected by a Mag phos deficiency for 6 months.  On further questioning you discover that mum was very stressed during the pregnancy. So baby may even have been experiencing Mag Phos deficiency sooner.

Treating both Mum and baby with Mag phos and any other appropriate minerals will get them both on track.

Baby gets back on track, cramping stops within a few days and all symptoms subside within a few weeks. Treatment is continued for another month then assessed to be much improved, growing and feeding well. Baby may need no further treatment at this time.

Mum however takes a bit longer. Why? You discovered in mum’s history that she suffered bad menstrual pain as a teenager. That she has had fluctuating periods with cramping pains a lot of her adult life. She shows signs of Mag Phos deficiency for over 15 years. And she is feeling stressed with a New Baby.

Mag Phos helps with the initial symptoms of stress, and she starts to relax with baby, and both of them become more relaxed. But this problem has been going for a long time. The longer term menstrual symptoms take a number of months to change.

As the practitioner I watch what else changes each consult as after the first month, there may be some different remedies required that were previously masked.

Example 3: 70-year-old man

Our 70-year-old man on the other hand has had muscle aches and pains since he was a teenager. He has worked hard physically for most of his life, and now he gets shooting pains in his legs, and doesn’t digest his food very well.

His case tells us he has been experiencing this deficiency for more than 50 years. Mag phos will improve his symptoms significantly, but we are working with 50 years of deficiency, so how far the treatment can go will depend on the overall health and vitality of this man. This would be a long term treatment.

Next week

Next week, get ready to recognise the facial signs for Mag Phos.


See you then.





No. 7 Mag Phos

autonomic nervous system – the part of the nervous system responsible for control of body functions that are not consciously directed, such as breathing, heartbeat and digestion.

diathesis – a constitutional predisposition or tendency, as to a particular disease or other abnormal state of the body or mind

dysmenorrhoea –  painful menstruation

hypertension – abnormally high blood pressure, especially in the arteries. High blood pressure increases the risk for heart attack and stroke

hypotension – abnormally low blood pressure, especially in the arteries

involuntary – done without conscious control

ischial – the lowest of the three major bones that constitute each half of the pelvis, distinct at birth but later becoming fused with the ilium and pubis. Also called ischial bone

peri-tonsillar – denotes area near or around the tonsils

pertussis – whooping cough

prostatitis – inflammation of the prostate gland

sciatica – refers to pain or discomfort associated with the sciatic nerve. This nerve runs from the lower part of the spinal cord, down the back of the leg, to the foot

smooth muscle –  a type of muscle tissue. Smooth muscle generally forms the supporting tisusue of blood vessels and hollow internal organs such as the stomach, intestine and bladder.

sphincter – ringlike muscle that normally maintains constriction of a body passage or orifice and that relaxes as required by normal physiological functioning

Sydenham’s Chorea – is an acute but self-limited movement disorder that occurs most commonly in children between the ages of 5 and 15, and occasionally in pregnant women. It is closely associated with rheumatic fever following a throat infection. The disorder takes its name from the rapid involuntary jerking or twitching movements of the patient’s face, limbs, and upper body

urina spastica –  spasms causing interruptions in urine flow